The Short Answer
The CES Letter is not one argument. It is a collection of questions about scripture, translation, polygamy, race, prophetic authority, history, and Church transparency.
That format creates emotional and rhetorical force. Before a reader has checked the first claim, ten more are waiting. The number of claims can feel like evidence by itself.
The right response is not “apologists answered everything.” It is to slow the stack down:
- State one claim precisely.
- Open the cited source.
- Read enough context to understand it.
- Separate fact from interpretation.
- Ask what conclusion actually follows.
- Compare the best faithful and critical explanations.
Say This in Thirty Seconds
“The CES Letter raises real questions, but a list is not a verdict. Pick the strongest claim and check it from the original source. Some points are serious, some rely on disputed assumptions, and some repeat the same problem in different forms. I am willing to examine any one of them without pretending a quick answer settles everything.”
Watch for the Claim Stack
A claim stack combines many short objections before any one receives careful treatment. It can hide:
- weak claims beside strong ones,
- several arguments resting on the same premise,
- quotations whose context changes their force,
- facts followed by a conclusion that does not necessarily follow,
- and uncertainty presented as proof of fraud.
This does not mean the questions are dishonest. It means volume should not replace analysis.
A Five-Minute Triage
For any item, write down:
- The fact: What can both sides agree happened?
- The inference: What is the author asking you to conclude?
- The hidden rule: What view of scripture, prophecy, translation, or morality makes that inference work?
- The comparison: Is the same rule applied to the Bible and other churches?
- The uncertainty: What does the surviving record not tell us?
Turn the Question
- Which concern is strongest if we discuss only one?
- Have you read the original source rather than the quotation in the letter?
- What evidence could change your present conclusion?
- Are you asking whether a problem exists or whether it logically disproves the entire Restoration?
Do Not Say
- “The CES Letter contains no legitimate questions.” It does.
- “Sarah Allen or FAIR answered everything, so the case is closed.” Responses must still be evaluated.
- “Jeremy Runnells had bad motives.” Motive does not decide an argument.
- “One possible explanation proves the faithful position.” Possibility is not probability.
Continue the Study
The Claim at Its Strongest
The CES Letter argues cumulatively. A single issue might admit a faithful explanation, but the collection appears to reveal a pattern:
- scripture contains anachronisms and translation problems,
- Joseph Smith’s stories developed,
- plural marriage involved secrecy and moral difficulty,
- prophets taught things later rejected,
- and the Church did not teach many of these facts clearly to ordinary members.
If every problem needs its own rescue theory, the naturalistic explanation may look simpler: Joseph Smith was a talented religious founder, and later leaders protected the institution he created.
That cumulative argument is stronger than treating the letter as a list of typos to correct.
The document moves quickly across subjects that each require their own field of study. A reader may encounter biblical criticism, nineteenth-century legal history, Egyptology, genetics, linguistics, marriage law, and institutional finance within one sitting.
No one can responsibly verify all of that at the speed it is presented.
The result is an information gap:
- The accusation takes a paragraph.
- The context takes several pages.
- The reader interprets the length of the response as evasion.
- The next accusation arrives before the first is settled.
This is sometimes called a Gish gallop in live debate. A written collection is not identical, because the reader may stop and research. Still, the psychological effect is similar.
Do Not Begin With a Counter-Document
A second enormous rebuttal can recreate the same problem. The reader gets two mountains of claims and has no method for deciding between them.
Start with one concern.
The best first question is:
“Which claim would still matter most if the rest of the letter did not exist?”
That question reveals whether the cumulative case rests on several independent pillars or on one governing assumption repeated across categories.
The Six-Part Source Check
1. State the Claim
Avoid vague summaries such as “the Church lied.” Name the proposition:
- Joseph Smith used a seer stone during the Book of Mormon translation.
- The 1832 First Vision account differs from the 1838 history.
- The SEC found that Ensign Peak filed through shell companies that obscured the portfolio.
Specific facts can be checked.
2. Open the Source
Find the complete sermon, letter, affidavit, court order, manuscript, or interview. A quotation may be accurate and still misleading if the speaker is:
- summarizing an opponent,
- asking a question,
- speaking hypothetically,
- repeating hearsay,
- or distinguishing a belief from official doctrine.
3. Grade the Source
Ask:
- Is it contemporary?
- Is it firsthand?
- Was it recorded by the speaker?
- Was it published, private, or remembered decades later?
- Does another source corroborate it?
A late affidavit is still evidence. It is not the same evidence as a dated journal entry.
4. Separate Fact and Inference
Example:
- Fact: the surviving Joseph Smith Papyri are Egyptian funerary texts.
- Inference: therefore no missing papyrus could have contained Abraham material.
- Further inference: therefore every revelatory translation model is fraudulent.
Each step needs its own support.
5. Name the Standard
Many arguments depend on an unstated theory:
- a prophet must never make a serious error,
- translation must be ordinary linguistic conversion,
- scripture cannot contain later editorial material,
- true ordinances cannot change in presentation,
- God would never use culturally familiar instruments,
- or a church with divine guidance would disclose every difficult fact early and prominently.
Some of these standards may be defensible. They should be argued rather than smuggled in.
6. Apply the Standard Twice
Ask how the same rule treats:
- Paul’s differing conversion accounts,
- biblical authorship and redaction,
- Christian canon formation,
- Peter’s correction by Paul,
- changes in biblical ritual,
- or the finances and history of the critic’s own tradition.
A double standard does not prove the Restoration. It tells us that the proposed test may be too blunt.
A Topic Routing Map
Use focused pages instead of carrying the whole letter at once.
| Concern | First question | Where to continue |
|---|
| First Vision accounts | Which statements cannot coexist? | Multiple First Vision Accounts |
| Seer stone and hat | Does the tool prove deception? | Seer Stones and Translation |
| Book of Mormon witnesses | What did the Three and Eight separately claim? | Book of Mormon Witnesses |
| Book of Abraham | What do the surviving fragments establish? | Book of Abraham and the Papyri |
| Deutero-Isaiah | Which dating model is assumed? | Deutero-Isaiah and the Book of Mormon |
| Polygamy | Which relationship and which evidence? | Joseph Smith’s Polygamy, Fanny Alger, D&C 132 |
| Temple and Masonry | Are form and theology being equated? | Masonry and the Endowment |
| Prophetic errors | Does authority require infallibility? | Prophets and Fallibility |
| Race and priesthood | What harm occurred and what theories are now disavowed? | Priesthood and Race |
| Finances | Is the claim legal, moral, or theological? | Church Finances and Ensign Peak |
Count Independent Arguments, Not Headlines
Suppose five concerns all depend on one premise: “A prophet of God cannot be mistaken about history, science, policy, or doctrine.”
Those are not five independent proofs. They are five applications of one model of prophecy.
The discussion should move to the model:
- Does the Bible teach prophetic inerrancy?
- How do Nathan, Jonah, Peter, and other biblical figures function?
- What kind of correction is compatible with calling?
- Are some errors severe enough to disconfirm a claimed authority even if minor error is allowed?
The last question keeps the response honest. “Prophets are fallible” cannot become a blank check.
Distinguish Four Possible Verdicts
Research does not always end in “true” or “fraud.”
An individual claim may be:
- Confirmed and damaging. The fact is true and creates a serious problem.
- Confirmed but overstated. The fact is true, but the proposed conclusion exceeds it.
- Disputed. Serious evidence supports more than one reconstruction.
- Incorrect. The claim misstates the source or known facts.
A faithful person should be willing to place claims in all four categories.
What About Church Transparency?
Some readers were taught simplified narratives and later felt betrayed. That experience cannot be answered by saying that a source existed somewhere in a library.
Availability and ordinary accessibility are different.
The Church has published essays and source projects that improve access. Those efforts do not erase earlier gaps in curriculum, artwork, or common teaching. A mature defense can hold both facts:
- some accusations that “the Church hid everything” are too broad,
- and some members had good reason to feel unprepared.
Trust grows through candor, not through winning a semantic argument over the word “hidden.”
How Sarah Allen’s Series Helps
Sarah Allen’s response works through the document in a long serialized format. It is useful when a reader wants to follow the sequence of claims and compare sources.
It should be treated as a resource, not as an authority that ends discussion. Read the links, check the quotations, and note where her judgment differs from other faithful writers.
Mormonr’s CES Letter page is useful for keeping primary records close to the question.
A Debate-Ready Response
“I do not expect you to accept an eighty-part rebuttal because it exists. Pick the CES Letter claim you consider strongest. We can state it precisely, open the original source, separate the fact from the conclusion, and identify the standard being used. If the claim holds up, we should admit it. If it depends on a double standard or an unsupported leap, the size of the list does not rescue it.”
Questions That Change the Conversation
- Which concern is independent of the others?
- What source would you trust for the underlying fact?
- Is the disagreement factual, interpretive, moral, or theological?
- What model of prophecy is being assumed?
- What would count as a satisfactory faithful explanation?
- What evidence would make the critical conclusion less likely?
- Have both sides defined the claim narrowly enough to test it?
Sources and Further Study